re: “our results suggest that intelligence is relatively unrelated to whether someone is a kind and moral person.” I'd be surprised if their results suggested that Agreeableness is related to whether you are a kind and moral person. It's hard to be moral if you are a spineless coward engaged in constant preference falsification. Not that cultivating a hobby of offending others is an improvement ....
Interesting point. Agreeableness has two main aspects: politeness and compassion. Politeness might be related to preference falsification, etc. But compassion could potentially motivate kindness and moral behavior.
It's not usually politeness at the bottom of this but the inability to speak up and disagree with others. You tell polite lies not to be polite, but because not going along with what other people said isn't harmonious, and you over-value social harmony.
That makes sense. I’m not sure, though, that that tendency is synonymous with trait agreeableness. The Big Five traits are very broad collections of lower-order traits. My guess is that the tendency you’re describing is part of trait agreeableness, but that there are other facets as well - some of which may be associated with genuine kindness and moral behavior.
Would knowing that you know nothing come under openness? It's not scientific but it seems like a common trait.
I remember reading about the categorisation of words in the original Allport research and it was something like 15,000 words he manually sorted? Long before computers and quicksort.
I think AI research has found that the LLMs see concepts regardless of their language and put them in the same vectors space.
Both the studies you've written about are really interesting, but the multinational one ties into this LLM finding slightly.
My guess is that knowing that you know nothing would be more highly correlated with openness than with any other Big Five trait.
Yep, Allport found nearly 18,000 trait-related words in the dictionary, which he boiled down to around 4,500. With the advent of statistical techniques like factor analysis, people like Raymond Cattell were able to boil the trait descriptors down to a more manageable number of essential traits.
When people say "Intelligence has nothing to do with personality", what they are saying is that it has little to no impact on someone being nice or jerkish, brave or cowardly, happy or miserable, empathetic or sociopathic, promiscuous or prude, etc.
re: “our results suggest that intelligence is relatively unrelated to whether someone is a kind and moral person.” I'd be surprised if their results suggested that Agreeableness is related to whether you are a kind and moral person. It's hard to be moral if you are a spineless coward engaged in constant preference falsification. Not that cultivating a hobby of offending others is an improvement ....
Interesting point. Agreeableness has two main aspects: politeness and compassion. Politeness might be related to preference falsification, etc. But compassion could potentially motivate kindness and moral behavior.
It's not usually politeness at the bottom of this but the inability to speak up and disagree with others. You tell polite lies not to be polite, but because not going along with what other people said isn't harmonious, and you over-value social harmony.
That makes sense. I’m not sure, though, that that tendency is synonymous with trait agreeableness. The Big Five traits are very broad collections of lower-order traits. My guess is that the tendency you’re describing is part of trait agreeableness, but that there are other facets as well - some of which may be associated with genuine kindness and moral behavior.
Would knowing that you know nothing come under openness? It's not scientific but it seems like a common trait.
I remember reading about the categorisation of words in the original Allport research and it was something like 15,000 words he manually sorted? Long before computers and quicksort.
I think AI research has found that the LLMs see concepts regardless of their language and put them in the same vectors space.
Both the studies you've written about are really interesting, but the multinational one ties into this LLM finding slightly.
My guess is that knowing that you know nothing would be more highly correlated with openness than with any other Big Five trait.
Yep, Allport found nearly 18,000 trait-related words in the dictionary, which he boiled down to around 4,500. With the advent of statistical techniques like factor analysis, people like Raymond Cattell were able to boil the trait descriptors down to a more manageable number of essential traits.
The AI research is very interesting!
When people say "Intelligence has nothing to do with personality", what they are saying is that it has little to no impact on someone being nice or jerkish, brave or cowardly, happy or miserable, empathetic or sociopathic, promiscuous or prude, etc.