We looked at SES, but didn't find any correlation between it and interest in any of the relationship types. Do you think the gap between what women have to lose and what men have to lose is larger today than in the past? I would've guessed that it's smaller, but I guess it depends on what kind of losses you have in mind.
Sure, but most men don't either. Only a small fraction of the population is massively wealthy. In the normal range, wealth gaps are much more modest.
That aside, though, I'm not sure that the gap in what women vs. men have to lose is larger today than it used to be. In the past, divorced women would often lose the kids and end up destitute, as they had no way to make a living and no financial support from the husband. Today, we have various legal and welfare provisions that, while not making things easy, do make them a lot better than they were. Presumably that shrinks the gap in what women vs. men have to lose.
I'm not saying this to support polygyny, by the way; I'm just not sure that the sex difference in the desire for polygyny is a result of women having more to lose today than they used to.
I don’t know what changed but on my iPhone the words I tap out look different quite often than when I typed - its not quite correcting it’s now projecting what I will type (attempted to inject “turn” just then instead of “type”) (the word “then” was an effort to get past “the”). The original intent was to write
“Now, in OECD countries according to Credit Suisse 65%-85% of wealth is controlled by women. It’s been rising significantly.”
I would conjecture that as women are more secure financially, it would be easier to contemplate other sexual arrangements for both men and women. Divorce has been catastrophic for women as you note. Polygamy and polyandry - I would also conjecture - are a prelude to separation, not conjugation. That was impossibly hard to type.
There used to be an old expression I partially recall in France, that it takes four make a happy marriage - wife and husband, and their paramours…
65% - 85% of the wealth that men control. Sorry - I’m gong to give up trying to respond anymore except at my desktop. Parity is 100% not 50% - my mis-implication.
...and come to think of it, if it were about sex difference in what people have to lose if the relationship goes wrong, women would also be less drawn than men to monogamous relationships. Instead, they're slightly more drawn to them.
I’d like to see it normalized by income or wealth.
Granted women have more to lose today for the relation going wrong… not surprising.
We looked at SES, but didn't find any correlation between it and interest in any of the relationship types. Do you think the gap between what women have to lose and what men have to lose is larger today than in the past? I would've guessed that it's smaller, but I guess it depends on what kind of losses you have in mind.
No in OECD women controls 65-85% wealth of men and rising.
Sure, but most men don't either. Only a small fraction of the population is massively wealthy. In the normal range, wealth gaps are much more modest.
That aside, though, I'm not sure that the gap in what women vs. men have to lose is larger today than it used to be. In the past, divorced women would often lose the kids and end up destitute, as they had no way to make a living and no financial support from the husband. Today, we have various legal and welfare provisions that, while not making things easy, do make them a lot better than they were. Presumably that shrinks the gap in what women vs. men have to lose.
I'm not saying this to support polygyny, by the way; I'm just not sure that the sex difference in the desire for polygyny is a result of women having more to lose today than they used to.
I don’t know what changed but on my iPhone the words I tap out look different quite often than when I typed - its not quite correcting it’s now projecting what I will type (attempted to inject “turn” just then instead of “type”) (the word “then” was an effort to get past “the”). The original intent was to write
“Now, in OECD countries according to Credit Suisse 65%-85% of wealth is controlled by women. It’s been rising significantly.”
I would conjecture that as women are more secure financially, it would be easier to contemplate other sexual arrangements for both men and women. Divorce has been catastrophic for women as you note. Polygamy and polyandry - I would also conjecture - are a prelude to separation, not conjugation. That was impossibly hard to type.
There used to be an old expression I partially recall in France, that it takes four make a happy marriage - wife and husband, and their paramours…
Aha, I see! That makes more sense to me now. Fascinating that 65%-85% of wealth is controlled by women in OECD countries!
65% - 85% of the wealth that men control. Sorry - I’m gong to give up trying to respond anymore except at my desktop. Parity is 100% not 50% - my mis-implication.
...and come to think of it, if it were about sex difference in what people have to lose if the relationship goes wrong, women would also be less drawn than men to monogamous relationships. Instead, they're slightly more drawn to them.