When I was in graduate school for mathematics, the fact that men outnumbered women 20 to 1 was not a fact welcomed by us men, or at least the ones who weren't gay.
I don’t want to be THAT woman, femanazi or whatever, but I cringed at a few of these. Seems both sexes have public pundits who exaggerate the grievances.
It’s interesting: I’ve enjoyed reading Farrell’s work over the years, but putting all those quotes in one place at one time caused me to have much the same reaction you did.
I do think it’s valuable to look at both sides of the argument, and to consider difficulties on both sides - that’s why I published the post despite that reaction. But I also think both sides need to avoid grievance hunting and sliding into self-pity.
I can’t find any evidence for the story a man was “cooked” in early tests for the development of the microwave oven. It doesn’t contradict Farrell’s larger point, but makes me less inclined to take him seriously.
A few examples off the top of my head: Sometimes I feel he underplays the biological underpinnings of sex differences, and suggests that it may be easier to shake off gender roles than I suspect it will be. Other times, he does roughly the opposite: He exaggerates and simplifies sex differences. Also, his suggestion that wives kill their husbands as much as the reverse, but do so by hiring hitmen, strikes me as unrealistic.
Yes, agree on the underplaying of bio sex differences. Hopefully that will shift with the new edition of Myth of Male Power being worked on.
The women killing their husbands is an interesting bit. When women contract a man to kill their spouse, which is often the route they choose, it is not counted as a murder for her. There are also quite a few deaths from poisoning, which is also a popular choice for women to kill their spouse and those are very often never "solved" as being murder. Of course many women are forgiven via a gynocentric court. There are the female only defenses like the "battered woman syndrome" that makes it legal for a woman to kill her husband if she can show she had been previously abused. No such defenses exist for men.
I think the stat is now showing that men are 23% of those killed by a spouse. Interesting that that figure has dropped considerably after the VAWA was passed. This makes me wonder if the VAWA hasn't protected men from dangerous women by housing and supporting the dangerous women and telling them they are victims? That rate was about 38% in the 1980's.
Yes indeed. I believe the main reason he left the National Organisation for Women was their refusal to support any form of equality in child custody cases.
When I was in graduate school for mathematics, the fact that men outnumbered women 20 to 1 was not a fact welcomed by us men, or at least the ones who weren't gay.
I don’t want to be THAT woman, femanazi or whatever, but I cringed at a few of these. Seems both sexes have public pundits who exaggerate the grievances.
It’s interesting: I’ve enjoyed reading Farrell’s work over the years, but putting all those quotes in one place at one time caused me to have much the same reaction you did.
I do think it’s valuable to look at both sides of the argument, and to consider difficulties on both sides - that’s why I published the post despite that reaction. But I also think both sides need to avoid grievance hunting and sliding into self-pity.
Agreed!
I can’t find any evidence for the story a man was “cooked” in early tests for the development of the microwave oven. It doesn’t contradict Farrell’s larger point, but makes me less inclined to take him seriously.
Great quotes! Warren is a force! You mentioned that you might not always agree with Farrell. I am curious what you might disagree with?
A few examples off the top of my head: Sometimes I feel he underplays the biological underpinnings of sex differences, and suggests that it may be easier to shake off gender roles than I suspect it will be. Other times, he does roughly the opposite: He exaggerates and simplifies sex differences. Also, his suggestion that wives kill their husbands as much as the reverse, but do so by hiring hitmen, strikes me as unrealistic.
Yes, agree on the underplaying of bio sex differences. Hopefully that will shift with the new edition of Myth of Male Power being worked on.
The women killing their husbands is an interesting bit. When women contract a man to kill their spouse, which is often the route they choose, it is not counted as a murder for her. There are also quite a few deaths from poisoning, which is also a popular choice for women to kill their spouse and those are very often never "solved" as being murder. Of course many women are forgiven via a gynocentric court. There are the female only defenses like the "battered woman syndrome" that makes it legal for a woman to kill her husband if she can show she had been previously abused. No such defenses exist for men.
I think the stat is now showing that men are 23% of those killed by a spouse. Interesting that that figure has dropped considerably after the VAWA was passed. This makes me wonder if the VAWA hasn't protected men from dangerous women by housing and supporting the dangerous women and telling them they are victims? That rate was about 38% in the 1980's.
Yes indeed. I believe the main reason he left the National Organisation for Women was their refusal to support any form of equality in child custody cases.